From Dark and Darker Wiki

No edit summary
No edit summary
Line 38: Line 38:


Most melee weapons operate on a Sweet/Sour Spot system, meaning hitting an enemy with the tip of the weapon will deal the most damage and hitting further down on the blade/haft will deal less damage.
Most melee weapons operate on a Sweet/Sour Spot system, meaning hitting an enemy with the tip of the weapon will deal the most damage and hitting further down on the blade/haft will deal less damage.
The number of sour spots vary between weapons.  
The number of sour spots vary between weapons.
Some weapons also have different damage modifiers in their combos, for example, the Castillion Dagger's 3 hit deals 50% more damage
 
Some weapons also have different properties, for example, the Castillion Dagger's 3rd hit deals 50% more damage or the Felling Axe's attack can be chained infinitely, as long as the attack doesn't miss or get's interrupted.
 
The "Combo" column reflects a weapon's attack animation during it's attack string, this description will be different to the ing-game one, as those reflect the attack's coded damage type.
 
Melee Damage types are not yet implemented in the game, therefore, to avoid confusion, it's been altered to describe the attack animation.




Revision as of 17:13, 12 January 2023


Rarity

There are 8 rarities in the game.

Junk | Poor | Common | Uncommon | Rare | Epic | Legendary | Unique


As rarities increase, the items get stronger. Rarity Uncommon and above adds an extra random Enchantment.

Uncommon rarity adds 1 new enchantment

Rare rarity adds 2 new enchantments

Epic rarity adds 3 new enchantments

Legendary rarity adds 4 new enchantments

Unique rarity adds 5 new enchantments


Stat Randomization

Not only are the enchantments a gear piece is imbued with randomized, but some of it's base stats are also randomized.

In general, only the damage values on weapons and the armor rating on armors are variable.

As such, 2 gear pieces of the same rarity can have different base stats.

There are some exceptions like the Lightfoot Boots, these also have randomized movement speed values based on rarity.

For example, a Epic rarity Armet can have a 36 ~ 38 Armor Rating, which means that stat can roll between 36 to 38.


Weapons Properties

Most melee weapons operate on a Sweet/Sour Spot system, meaning hitting an enemy with the tip of the weapon will deal the most damage and hitting further down on the blade/haft will deal less damage. The number of sour spots vary between weapons.

Some weapons also have different properties, for example, the Castillion Dagger's 3rd hit deals 50% more damage or the Felling Axe's attack can be chained infinitely, as long as the attack doesn't miss or get's interrupted.

The "Combo" column reflects a weapon's attack animation during it's attack string, this description will be different to the ing-game one, as those reflect the attack's coded damage type.

Melee Damage types are not yet implemented in the game, therefore, to avoid confusion, it's been altered to describe the attack animation.


Weapon Categories

Weapons categories are comprised of melee, ranged or magical weapons. These include:


Swords


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Combo Attack Speed Sweet/Sour Spot Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Arming Sword
Arming Sword
 Fighter, Ranger 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		22 -20 Slash/Slash/Thrust
100%/100%/100% 		0.6s/0.56s/0.75s 100%/90%/70% Length: 54.5
Radius: 11.3 		Attack: -25%
Falchion
Falchion
 Fighter 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		30 -25 Slash/Slash/Slash
100%/100%/100% 		0.82s/0.74s/0.89s 100%/90% Length: 51.2
Radius: 10.4 		Attack: -30%
Longsword
Longsword
 Fighter 2-Handeded 29 -40 Thrust/Slash/Slash
100%/100%/100%

Riposte: Slash/Slash
150%/150% 		1.16s/0.91s/0.99s 100%/80%/60% Length: 81.2
Radius: 17.3 		Attack: -35%
Blockreaction: -3%
Riposte: -35%
Riposteattack: -35%
Rapier
Rapier
 Ranger, Rogue 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		13 -17 Thrust/Slash/Slash/Slash
100%/100%/100%/100% 		0.5s/0.75s/0.73s/0.68s 100% Length: 56.7
Radius: 13.3 		Attack: -20%
Zweihander
Zweihander
 Barbarian, Fighter 2-Handeded 33 -50 Slash/Slash/Thrust
100%/100%/100%

Slash/Slash
100%/100% 		1.17s/1.03s/1.2s 100%/80%/60% Length: 81.5
Radius: 18.9 		Attack: -40%

Maces


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Combo Attack Speed Sweet/Sour Spot Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Flanged Mace
Flanged Mace
 Cleric, Fighter 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		26 -25 Bludgeon/Bludgeon/Bludgeon
100%/100%/100% 		0.87s/0.92s/1.07s 100%/70% Length: 41.7
Radius: 7.2 		Attack: -30%
Morning Star
Morning Star
 Cleric 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		28 -25 Bludgeon/Bludgeon/Bludgeon
100%/100%/100% 		1.15s/1.03s/1.12s 100%/70% Length: 48.1
Radius: 19.3 		Attack: -30%
War Maul
War Maul
 Barbarian, Cleric 2-Handeded 45 -55 Bludgeon/Bludgeon/Bludgeon
100%/100%/100% 		1.33s/1.2s/1.2s 100%/70% Length: 61.5
Radius: 19.1 		Attack: -55%


Daggers


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Combo Attack Speed Sweet/Sour Spot Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Castillon Dagger
Castillon Dagger
 Fighter, Rogue 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		16 -10 Slash/Slash/Thrust
100%/100%/150% 		0.77s/0.57s/0.83s 100% Length: 28.0
Radius: 6.6 		Attack: -10%
Kris Dagger
Kris Dagger
 Rogue 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		14 -10 Slash/Thrust/Slash
100%/100%/100% 		0.67s/0.51s/0.78s 100% Length: 25.1
Radius: 5.3 		Attack: -10%
Rondel Dagger
Rondel Dagger
 Rogue, Wizard 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		14 -10 Thrust/Thrust/Thrust
100%/100%/100% 		0.68s/0.4s/0.5s 100% Length: 26.2
Radius: 3.1 		Attack: -10%
Stiletto Dagger
Stiletto Dagger
 Rogue 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		15 -10 Slash/Slash/Thrust
100%/100%/150% 		0.62s/0.53s/0.52s 100% Length: 25.9
Radius: 4.5 		Attack: -10%

Polearms


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Combo Attack Speed Sweet/Sour Spot Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Bardiche
Bardiche
 Barbarian 2-Handed 39 -50 Slash/Thrust/Slash
100%/100%/100%

Block 		1.18s/0.86s/1.33s 100%/60% Length: 101.0
Radius: 11.7 		Attack: -45%
Blockreaction: -35%
Defensemode: -35%
Halberd
Halberd
 Fighter 2-Handed 37 -50 Slash/Thrust/Slash
100%/100%/100%

Slash/Slash
100%/100% 		1.07s/0.93s/1.25s 100%/60%/40% Length: 120.9
Radius: 16.0 		Attack: -45%
Spear
Spear
 Fighter 2-Handed 29 -40 Thrust/Thrust/Slash
100%/100%/100%

Block 		0.8s/0.85s/0.94s 100%/60% Length: 113.6
Radius: 6.4 		Attack: -35%
Blockreaction: -35%
Defensemode: -35%

Axes


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Combo Attack Speed Sweet/Sour Spot Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Battle Axe
Battle Axe
 Barbarian, Fighter 2-Handed 35 -45 Slash/Slash
100%/100%

Slash
100% 		1.12s/1.27s 100%/60% Length: 62.8
Radius: 16.2 		Attack: -40%
Double Axe
Double Axe
 Barbarian 2-Handed 40 -45 Slash/Slash
100%/100% 		1.26s/1.51s 100%/60% Length: 74.8
Radius: 23.1 		Attack: -45%
Felling Axe
Felling Axe
 Barbarian 2-Handed 33 -40 Slash
100% 		0.86s 100%/60% Length: 57.2
Radius: 13.0 		Attack: -30%
Hatchet
Hatchet
 Barbarian, Fighter 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		15 -25 Slash/Slash/Slash
100%/100%/100% 		0.68s/0.67s/0.67s 100%/80%/60% Length: 40.7
Radius: 11.1 		Attack: -25%
Horsemans Axe
Horsemans Axe
 Barbarian, Fighter 1-Handed
Main-Hand 		19 -30 Slash/Slash/Slash
100%/100%/100% 		0.73s/0.72s/0.76s 100%/80% Length: 48.0
Radius: 10.7 		Attack: -25%

Bows


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Attack Speed Action Movement Speed Quiver Size
Longbow
Longbow
 Ranger 2-Handed 34 -50 2.39s Attack: -45%
Reload: -70% 		5
Recurve Bow
Recurve Bow
 Ranger 2-Handed 24 -40 1.6s Attack: -35%
Reload: -70% 		6
Survival Bow
Survival Bow
 Ranger 2-Handed 13 -30 1.3s Attack: -25%
Reload: -70% 		7

Crossbows

Magical Weapons


Name Class Slot Damage Movement Speed Stats Combo Attack Speed Sweet/Sour Spot Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Crystal Ball
Crystal Ball
 Wizard 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		0 -25 1 Magical Damage Spell Cast Casting: -25%
Crystal Sword
Crystal Sword
 Wizard 2-Handed 6 ~ 7 -30 4 ~ 6 Magical Weapon Damage Thrust/Slash/Slash
100%/100%/100%

Spell Cast 		0.68s/1.15s/1.06s 100%/90%/70% Length: 54.9
Radius: 10.6 		Attack: -30%
Casting: -35%
Magic Wand
Magic Wand
 Wizard  ? 0 -8 Use: -35%
Spellbook
Spellbook
 Cleric, Wizard 2-Handed 0 -10 1 Magical Damage Spell Cast Casting: -25%
Wizard Staff
Wizard Staff
 Cleric, Wizard 2-Handed 19 -20 Bludgeon/Bludgeon
100%/100%

Spell Cast 		0.63s/1.01s 100%/80% Length: 82.7
Radius: 6.4 		Attack: -30%
Casting: -35%

Shields


Name Class Slot Armor Rating Movement Speed Combo Weapon Reach/Hitbox Action Movement Speed
Buckler
Buckler
 Cleric, Fighter 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		6 -7 Block Blockreaction: -1%
Guard: -10%
Heater Shield
Heater Shield
 Cleric, Fighter 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		15 -15 Block Length: 41.8
Radius: 32.9 		Blockreaction: -3%
Guard: -35%
Pavise
Pavise
 Fighter, Ranger 2-Handed 24 -65 Ground Deployment

Block 		Blockreaction: -3%
Guard: -45%
Round Shield
Round Shield
 Cleric, Fighter 1-Handed
Off-Hand 		13 -12 Block Blockreaction: -3%
Guard: -25%


Retrieved from "http://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/index.php?title=Weapons&oldid=1905"
Add comment
"The damage ratio for each section of the rapier has been changed."
jose peralta | Posted on Mar 31, 2025 at 7:09 pm

Not seeing any info showing that change^ from Hotfix #80?

Magic Staff Impact Zones
jose peralta | Posted on Mar 2, 2025 at 2:58 pm

I see there are 3 different numbers for impact zones on Magic Staff, 100%/80%/60%(green/orange/red I'm assuming), but I'm only seeing green and orange zones under the Hitbox illustration for it

Raw Salad | Posted on Mar 5, 2025 at 6:55 pm

While the third number exists in files, it is not used as the weapon doesn't have a corresponding hitbox area. Magic Staff only uses the first two impact zones.

Missing HitSlow numbers on some weapons?
jose peralta | Posted on Feb 16, 2025 at 7:02 am | Last edited on Feb 16, 2025 at 7:03 am

I came here to see what the HitSlow for Short Sword is and noticed that it, plus several other weapons(not refering to things like crystal ball obv), are not showing anything. Is this because they dont have any HitSlow or just missing info? ty.

Raw Salad | Posted on Feb 16, 2025 at 10:49 pm | Last edited on Feb 16, 2025 at 10:51 pm

It is now fixed. There was an issue in the template due to recent changes. Thank you for noticing.

Reset your browsers cache if you still don't see the values. The shortcut is typically: ctrl + f5.

crossbow reload times?
anonymous | Posted on Nov 28, 2024 at 5:47 am

where did they go??

Sur | Posted on Dec 24, 2024 at 8:14 pm

Should be back now!

combo activation speed's effect on recover
anonymous | Posted on Nov 3, 2024 at 1:42 pm

assuming you hold down left click with an arming sword for just 2 attacks, would you have to add the 376ms of the second attack into the recover phase or ignore it altogether? would the total be 2.204 seconds or 1.828?

Raw Salad | Posted on Nov 5, 2024 at 2:34 am

The animation times column on this page shows the "full" length combo. To see subsets of a weapon's combo, visit the weapon's subsection on combos.

combo activation
anonymous | Posted on Oct 23, 2024 at 8:45 pm

what's combo activation exactly? is it just part of the old combo stat or is it something like the time you get to prolong your combo?

Raw Salad | Posted on Oct 28, 2024 at 10:58 pm

The old combo stat combined "Combo Activation" and the subsequent "Windup" into one value. We split it for clarity since the period where you can activate a combo varies a lot.

anonymous | Posted on Nov 1, 2024 at 5:53 am

So if you hold the button do you just not count combo activation period at all since you get to the combo instantly?

Raw Salad | Posted on Nov 5, 2024 at 2:38 am | Last edited on Nov 5, 2024 at 2:55 am

I can't confidently say one way or another based on intuition and game feel alone. This exact question remains to be tested and I've been too busy.

If someone else is interested and willing, it would be sufficient to continuously repeat a combo 10+ times and time it, then repeat without continuously holding the attack button. If there's a time discrepancy, then that means the combo activation period is dynamic and can end early.

Rondel Dagger is the perfect weapon for this test since attacks 2 and 3 allow you to chain a combo indefinitely.

jose peralta | Posted on Mar 31, 2025 at 7:00 pm

Pretty sure you just have a window of time during your current swing in which you can choose to combo, if there is no more attack inputs it just goes into the recovery phase?

Magic staff
anonymous | Posted on Sep 2, 2024 at 10:15 pm

Does the magical true damage also give damage when you bonk someone with the magic staff?

Brecher | Posted on Sep 3, 2024 at 7:47 am

Only if you have the Staff Mastery perk.

Slowdown On Hit是什么意思 减攻击速度 还是移动速度 减敌人的还是自己的
anonymous | Posted on Jul 8, 2024 at 3:00 pm

Slowdown On Hit是什么意思 减攻击速度 还是移动速度 减敌人的还是自己的

anonymous | Posted on Jul 19, 2024 at 10:23 am

enemy

anonymous | Posted on Jul 31, 2024 at 6:27 am

i agree my lover

Как бить щитом?
anonymous | Posted on Jul 6, 2024 at 1:44 pm

Как бить щитом?

Andreasyan | Posted on Jul 11, 2024 at 6:02 pm

Щитом бить нельзя, но есть щит, которым можно котратаковать (Lantern Shield) он единственный способный к нанесению урона

anonymous | Posted on Jul 31, 2024 at 6:28 am

yabadabadoooooo

bow
anonymous | Posted on Jun 30, 2024 at 5:48 pm

bow action speed?

anonymous | Posted on Jul 21, 2024 at 7:56 am

Does anyone know the difference in attack speed between long bow, recurve bow and survival bow?

weapon range
anonymous | Posted on Jun 13, 2024 at 6:40 am

I'd like to see the list sorted by range. I think I used to be able to.

Sur | Posted on Jun 20, 2024 at 1:11 am

We would love to include this but the table had more important information to include, so we had to move it to individual weapon pages i.e. /Arming_Sword. Recall that Range only refers to the hitbox dimensions, the attack animation is the biggest factor for the "effective range" anyways

Question about Crafted Weapons with Undead Damage Bonus% while dual wielding
anonymous | Posted on May 31, 2024 at 12:23 pm

I see people using Hand Crossbows similarly to get the armor pen bonus, so I was assuming it worked for either weapon but what im not sure about is whether you can stack them? ex Flanged Mace / Short Sword on a fighter. Would you get BOTH 15% Undead Damage Bonus, if so is it calculated *!5% -> *15%bonus or *30%bonus. tyx for any help

Sur | Posted on Jun 20, 2024 at 1:12 am

Stats only granted while held, see https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Stats

anonymous | Posted on Oct 11, 2024 at 7:27 am

Right, so would Dual Wielding Sterling Short Sword and Sterling Rod give 30% undead dmg bonus total?

Brecher | Posted on Oct 11, 2024 at 5:43 pm

Yes

where to find weapon length/range?
anonymous | Posted on May 18, 2024 at 2:07 pm

cant seem to find where it shows the range each weapon has am i jus not lookin hard enough?

Grass | Posted on May 24, 2024 at 9:04 pm

The weapon hitboxes/extent are on their individual pages.

Bonus stats from Bard's instruments
anonymous | Posted on Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08 pm

If I have a Lyre that adds 5 physical power, does it need to be equipped for the Phys power to actually reflect or will it be added statically just by having the Lyre in your inventory slot?

anonymous | Posted on Apr 2, 2024 at 11:07 am

需要装备

Grass | Posted on Apr 3, 2024 at 2:20 am

Needs to be in your hands for the stat bonuses

DPS
anonymous | Posted on Nov 2, 2023 at 10:26 am

What formula should I use to calculate the damage per second of a weapon for it's full combo?

CrookedJ | Posted on Jan 3, 2024 at 3:33 pm | Last edited on Jan 3, 2024 at 3:33 pm

(Base * Attack1Power) + (Base * Attack2Power) + (Base * Attack3Power) / [Sum of all Speeds]


So for a 20 base damage Castillon Dagger it would be

(20 * 1) + (20 * 1) + (20 * 1.5) / (0.579 + 0.131 + 0.569 + 0.180 + 0.943 + 0.200 + 1.061) = 19.11 DPS

BLock power impact power
anonymous | Posted on Oct 3, 2023 at 5:10 pm

Does this work if fighter has shield expert? If i am barb with crush,

anonymous | Posted on Nov 2, 2023 at 10:04 pm

I'm not sure what your full question is, but this video will probably answer it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gkBGYTMYqc

Sur | Posted on Jun 20, 2024 at 1:13 am

Impact power still functions as normal when attacked by a Barb with Crush, they just get +1 impact power for their weapons. https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Impact_Power#Crush

Enchantments that affect longbow damage
anonymous | Posted on Oct 2, 2023 at 1:39 pm

Does only weapon damage, real physical damage and extra physical damage affect the damage of the Bows and crossbows? Does strength really have no effect on the damage of the Bows and crossbows?

anonymous | Posted on Oct 3, 2023 at 5:10 pm

Strength determines the % extra physical damage bonus you do. 15 being 0% and 10 being -X%

Doesn't Kris Dagger has 4-hit combo now?
anonymous | Posted on Sep 4, 2023 at 5:34 am

That stab and twist is essentially 3rd and 4th attack, right?

Esthelion | Posted on Apr 15, 2024 at 9:25 pm

Yes.

魔法杖的魔法伤害
anonymous | Posted on Aug 25, 2023 at 1:27 am

魔法杖的Magical Damage是像水晶剑一样的Magical Weapon Damage还是像水晶球和魔法书一样的 可以用于增加魔法伤害?

anonymous | Posted on Sep 21, 2023 at 1:43 am

像水晶球和魔法书 不像水晶剑直接+打人傷害

THANK YOU for this wiki
anonymous | Posted on Aug 15, 2023 at 2:42 pm

dude you the best, is this info update? and the armor and stats curve aswell? thanks

Ta1ha | Posted on Aug 15, 2023 at 4:48 pm

Weapons are up-to-date. You can check the update progress in TODO

anonymous | Posted on Sep 16, 2023 at 2:11 pm

It shows how big the weapon is, but not the range. The magic staff for example has almost no range, crystal sword has bigger range. But thats not shown here.

Ta1ha | Posted on Sep 16, 2023 at 3:29 pm | Last edited on Sep 16, 2023 at 3:29 pm

Ofc, that information is explained at the beginning under weapon properties

附魔的属性好坏是不是和武器稀有度有关 比如说橙色武器最高能随机到+4所有属性 而紫色武器最高只能随机到+3所有属性
anonymous | Posted on Apr 23, 2023 at 5:55 pm

附魔的属性好坏是不是和武器稀有度有关 比如说橙色武器最高能随机到+4所有属性 而紫色武器最高只能随机到+3所有属性

Esthelion | Posted on Apr 23, 2023 at 6:34 pm

No, the item rarity only dictates how many enchantments a gear piece can have. The value ranges are the same for every tier. So a green helmet can have +2 all attributes and the same helmet at purple tier can have +1all attributes.

Google Translate 不，物品稀有度只决定了一件装备可以拥有多少附魔。 每个层级的值范围都相同。 所以绿色头盔可以有+2的所有属性，而同样的紫色头盔可以有+1所有的属性。

Sweet/Sour spot?
anonymous | Posted on Feb 10, 2023 at 2:40 am

Hey this might be obvious to some players, but I'm sure there are plenty of us who have no idea what this means. It sounds like maybe hitting with the hilt/handle instead of blade of axe or whatever. Or is it the place in the arc where you hit connects? Like on an overhead attack you pull back, swing over your head (first part) then you arc past the eyeline or chest height (Or more likely this is still part of the first "sweet spot") and maybe you have a back swing or a follow through to say the ground that could count as a lesser hit (So the sour spot?)? Some have 2 %s and some have 3. And they all seem to be better early.

Ta1ha | Posted on Feb 10, 2023 at 2:50 am | Last edited on Feb 10, 2023 at 2:50 am

Most melee weapons operate on a Sweet/Sour Spot system, meaning hitting an enemy with the tip of the weapon will deal the most damage and hitting further down on the blade/haft will deal less damage. The number of sour spots vary between weapons.

Closer you are, worse the long range weapons become. This can affect Polearms badly. On the other hand, daggers always do their 100% damage.

anonymous | Posted on Feb 14, 2023 at 3:21 pm

Thanks that answers my question perfectly. And that makes even more sense than my guesses.